TRANSIT apologizes for the delay

Dear Friends and Supporters of improved public transportation in Malaysia

TRANSIT apologizes for the recent hiatus on our website.

Like a bus that has been delayed by traffic congestion, we have been busy trying to sort out plans, get involved with various activities, and do what we are doing best – documenting the failings of public transport in Malaysia.

Please come back to this website as much as you can while we track back to some of our accomplishments and let you know how we are all getting along.

And yes, we are aware of the irony.

Kind Regards,

Moaz Yusuf Ahmad

on behalf of TRANSIT

A website that shows connecting links on Rapid KL network

TRANSIT received this email from Ashley and we would like to thank Ashley for this contribution.

“I found that its quite difficult to navigate RapidKL’s website especially if you want to find the stop where you can connect to another route, however I found a website that allows you to search by landmarks, road name or KTM/LRT station and the results will show the connecting routes for a particular bus route.

The website is http://www.klbusconnection.com/

I hope you can publish it on the Transit website for the benefit of all”

TRANSIT Meeting #4

Date: 21st October (Tuesday)
Time: 6:30 pm
Venue : Centre For Pranayoga & SelfTransformation
3rd Floor, Wisma Sri Krishna, No192-3,
Jln Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields,
Directions: It’s close to KL Sentral Monorail station, after the Post office, opposite Sentral Plaza and beside Syarikat Palaniandy

Agenda

1. Minutes of Meeting #3
2. Review of activities completed
3. Discuss roles and responsibilities (according to Zul’s proposed organizational chart)
4. Updates of current projects
5. New Projects
6. Discuss ways to get more people involved
* TRANSIT campaigns
* Forums
* Public Talks
* Meetings with residents group
* Leaflets
7. Calendar of activities
8. Next Meeting

4 Hurt In KL Light Rail Transit Collision

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 24 — Four passengers were injured when two Star LRT trains collided about 200m from the Bukit Jalil LRT station.

The four were sent to the Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia Medical Centre for treatment. Some 300 other passengers were unhurt.

The incident occurred at 6.32pm.

A RapidKL executive, Suffian Baharuddin, said the incident could be due to a technical glitch.

“We hope to return to normal services tomorrow. The incident is being investigated,” he said.

Suffian said as a result of the incident, services in both directions near the Sungai Besi, Bukit Jalil and Sri Petaling were suspended for the rest of the day. — Bernama

Q & A Regarding KTM KOMUTER

1. Track
They should upgrade and improve so that the train speed can be at maximum which will
reduce the turn around time. Therefore they will get one or two extra train set.

The best way to do this would be to install a standard gauge track but this would be costly. Dual gauge would be a good option because it would allow KTM freight and KTM Komuter operations on the same set of track.

Perhaps a dual-gauge of the KTM Komuter track in the inner Klang Valley (e.g. from Klang – Batu Caves and Seremban-Rawang) would benefit the KTM by allowing them to offer a faster train service.

However, you can see that this would be very costly to implement and might require the train service to be shut down.

I do hope that all future lines can be designed as dual-gauge.

2. Speed entering station.

The speed entering the station also should be increased.

It is very likely that this is a safety issue or a track quality issue

3. Signalling System

I am wondering why trains leaving KL Sentral towards Mid Valley has to stop. It shouldn’t because the route is not affecting other movement. They should review and improve the whole signalling system at KL Sentral in order to eliminate waiting.

3. Trains exiting KL Sentral and bound for MidValley may be forced to wait to allow other trains (especially the intercity trains) to clear signals. A study has been done recommending a tunneling of service for KTM Komuter under the existing track from MidValley and Bangsar to Putra station. The cost would be RM10 billion but the advantage would be that KTM Komuter could operate at faster speeds through the city.

At this time, I dont believe the benefits justify the cost of tunneling.

4. Seats

Notice some set already have been modified to only one row. But majority still have not. Maybe they depend on the contractor to do it. Can’t it be done by their own staff. It is very simple. If only 20 sets …..I guess it can be completed in 20 days…

The contract for refurbishment was decided by the Finance Ministry and not KTMB. KTMB is unhappy with the contractors because they delayed the return of the trains and were too slow. I believe that the contract with the private operator has been cancelled and KTMB has taken over the refurbishment of the KTM Komuter trains.

Commentary : State Goes Cold On Its Own Rapid

(comments by TRANSIT in italic below article)

From The New Straits Times Online
24/09/2008
By Sean Augustin

HULU TERENGGANU: The state government will review the need for a RapidTerengganu public transport service following concerns that it is not a viable venture and will affect local bus operators already facing a hard time to survive.

Rapid Terengganu, similar to RapidPenang and RapidKL, was announced during the time of former Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh.

A company was set up in 2006 to handle the task.

The state government then purchased 20 buses for RM11 million, and in May this year, the present state government said it was selecting the logo and pictures for use on the bus.

The state government also took delivery of the buses a month ago, but RapidTerengganu has yet to take off.
Menteri Besar Datuk Ahmad Said said because RapidTerengganu buses would be plying the same routes as local bus operators, the latter feared their businesses may be affected.

Besides Kuala Terengganu, RapidTerengganu would also service Kemaman, Besut, Marang, Dungun, Ajil a nd Jabor.

The state government may have to look for new routes for the RapidTerengganu bus service.

“If new routes are introduced, many people will not use the bus service.

“The state government, on the other hand, would still have to bear operating costs, including fuel costs, taxes and insurance.

“If we have to shut down operations because we did not conduct a thorough review of the proposal, it would be embarrassing for us,” he said after attending a buka puasa here on Monday.

The state government, he said, also had to cough up about RM1 million in taxes for the buses.

Ahmad said the government had decided to distribute the buses for use by agencies and recently, it had distributed four of the buses to the state Religious Affairs Department.

Comments by Moaz Yusuf Ahmad
on behalf of TRANSIT, Klang Valley

Here is another example of how government, while meaning well, may end up making serious mistakes.

The State Government of Terengganu wants to provide better public transport services but the proposed Rapid Terengganu would compete with existing bus services.

The State Government could keep the operators happy by focusing on the social routes – but then the government ends up operating money losing routes while the private operators are allowed to profit. How is that a fair situation?

Why should the privately owned corporations get the opportunity to profit while the government owned (publicly-owned) corporations are loss-making? Why can we not find a system that benefits all sides – government, operator and consumer?

The State Government made the mistake of going ahead with the purchase of the buses without going through detailed consultation with operators and with the public. Now they are stuck with buses that they have paid for, and no opportunity for them to profit.

They can let the buses out to their own government departments but the buses might not have the appropriate design. Since the public was not consulted in the purchase of the buses, we do not know if they are appropriately designed, urban-friendly, and most of all, universally accessible.

The solution is actually quite simple though. The State Government can set up a Local Public Transport Authority and take over control of all of the bus routes in the State, then offer them to the private operators on contract. Since the routes would be on contract, the State Government would retain control. With a 5 year contract period there could be a guarantee of service for that time which would allow the government and the operator and the consumer to benefit.

Since the buses would be owned by the State, there would be security for all stakeholders as well. The operator would not have to worry about the capital costs of purchasing the buses, they would only need to worry about operating and maintaining the buses. The state would own the buses and they could be re-used under future contracts. If one operator is found to be in breach of contract, the State Government can take back the buses and offer a contract to another bus operator.

It is a win, win, win situation. Unfortunately, this effective regulatory structure would not be allowed because the federal government views public transport operators as a business for private operators only.

TRANSIT calls upon the CVLB and the State Government of Terengganu to implement a Local Public Transport Authority in the state, reorganize bus services and allow everyone to win.

Press Statement from TRANSIT regarding the National Summit on Urban Public Transport (18 September 2008)

For Immediate Release

The Association for the Improvement of Mass-Transit (TRANSIT) Klang Valley issues the attached statement regarding the recently completed National Summit on Urban Public Transport, sponsored by the Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute.

TRANSIT welcomes the opportunity for dialogue to improve the public transport sector. Our observations of the National Summit (as described in the statement attached) reflect our view that political will has been absent from the public transport sector – especially with the bus industry.

TRANSIT and delegates at the National Summit concur in the view that political will must be found to improve public transportation in this country. Investments are not necessarily going to lead to improvement without the proper regulation and understanding of public transportation.

TRANSIT appreciates the efforts of the media to highlight public transport issues. For further information please review our previous statement and do not hesitate to contact us at our official email address (klangvalley.transit@gmail.com).

You may also wish to contact advisors Ong BK and Moaz Yusuf Ahmad or Spokesperson Muhammad Zulkarnain Hamzah and Peter Sinniah.

Kind Regards

Moaz Yusuf Ahmad
on behalf of TRANSIT

Report on the National Summit on Urban Public Transport (18.9.2008)

By Ong BK and Moaz Yusuf Ahmad
On behalf of the Association for the Improvement of Mass-Transit (TRANSIT), Klang Valley

The National Summit on Urban Public Transport was held by the Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute (Asli) at The Gardens Hotel and Conference Centre on September 18, 2008 from 9:00 am – 5:00 pm.

The Conference firmed up the view of Civil Society that the current governing parties are the main stumbling block to public transport reform: The government simply lacks the political will to improve the messy public transport system comprehensively and effectively!

Retired Perak CPO Yuen Yuet Leng, who used to brave bullets to serve the government stood up at the final plenary to declare that he has voted for the Opposition in the March 8 General Elections because the current leaders are putting self interest above national interest.

Representatives from Public Transport Industry stakeholders such as Prasarana (National Infrastructure Company), RapidKL (Bus and LRT operator), Scomi (Bus and Monorail builder), DBKL (KL City Hall), Datuk Nadzmi Salleh (Director of Konsortium Transnasional) and others were all united to demand a unified public transport agency instead of the current 13 agencies which splintered the administration of public transports into hopelessness.

Transport Minister Ong Tee Kiat in his keynote address announced the setting up of a unified Public Transport Agency – but skepticism remains as to when and how this is going to start functioning. The original plans have been delayed by 6 months.

CVLB Director Markiman Kobiran expressed his concern that the National Public Transport Commission would simply become a 14th agency, adding to the layers of bureaucracy instead of reducing it.

TRANSIT advisor Moaz Yusuf Ahmad suggested in his presentation that public transport be reformed from the very top, with the Cabinet Committee being replaced by a Parliamentary Select Committee to increase the level of public participation. This proposal was supported by Datuk Micheal Yeoh, Director of Asli, but rejected immediately by CVLB Director Markiman.
Many delegates at the National Summit expressed their frustration because there had been numerous such conferences before to address the non-functioning public transport – all of which have yielded little benefits to the end-users, the passengers.

Public Transport users were represented among the participants – however, some NGOs including the Bus User’s Group (BUG) from Penang, Barrier-free Environment and Accessible Transport-KL (Beat-KL), the Centre for Transport, Development and the Environment, Malaysia (Cetdem) and newly formed TRANSIT, provided a concise and clear view from the perspective of the public transport users.

TRANSIT advisor Moaz Yusuf Ahmad originally planned to attend the conference as a delegate but was asked to join the Special Discussion on Urban Transport as a panelist. It was an excellent and positive opportunity for TRANSIT to share their views about public transportation in Malaysia
Fortunately, the perspective of the user was given more focus, especially thanks to questions from the users present at the question times. So it was a strategic success for the users to get organised-at long last!

Some interesting disclosures from the speakers included:

  • CVLB’s Markiman Kobiran disclosed that CVLB policy is to limit competition in the public transport sector – and so the introduction of RapidKL and RapidPenang were pushed by `interference’ from `higher-up’ powers.
  • Dr. Aizi of the Federal Territories Ministry disclosed public transport only has 16% ridership (800 000 passengers/day) in KL, despite billions of RM in investment in public transport – chiefly in capital intensive LRT – while the improvements to the buses (Intrakota and RapidKL) have not lasted.
  • Moaz Yusuf Ahmad, speaking for TRANSIT disclosed that KTM Komuter is operating with 1/3 (20 Electric Multiple Unit Trains) out of the original fleet (62 trains). At the same time, the Rawang-Seremban line has been extended to Serendah and soon to Tanjung Malim, while the Pelabuhan Klang-Sentul line will soon be extended to Batu Caves and potentially to Selayang. In the 10 years of KTM Komuter operations, passenger demand has increased by 3 times.
  • Moaz Yusuf Ahmad also discussed TRANSIT’s view of the proposed LRT lines, suggesting that the government consider building the Kota Damansara-Cheras Line to MRT capacity (30,000-50,000 passengers per direction per hour)
  • Uwe Arhens of Melewar Integrated Engineering outlined 3 simple steps in Public transport planning and design. We wonder why the policy makers are finding it hard to implement these simple steps. Mr. Ahrens complained that they have been experiencing difficulties to make appointment with the CEO of Prasarana (Shaipudin Shah Harun) who seems to be making the wrong purchases of buses and LRTs.
  • Dr Leong Siew Mun of DBKL admitted that DBKL has little power to intervene into public transport planning but gets most of the blame within the Klang Valley.
  • Dato Nadzmi expressed his view that public transport needed to be improved and the regulation of the government was hampering the operations of businesses.
  • CVLB disclosed that they have not started a registry of bad bus drivers -though they have one for bad taxi drivers, thus allowing bad bus drivers to hop from one company to another – often expecting the new company to pay the driver’s own summonses.
  • Dr Thilainathan compared transport data between KL, Singapore, and Hong Kong, which showed that in most cases, Hong Kong and Singapore had found ways to improve the mobility of their population with less use of private cars
  • Shaipudin Shah Harun, Prasarana CEO was lost for words when challenged why Rapid buses was slow to become disabled friendly. He could only said that it takes other factors to work together to deliver the service-but why Rapid must be the last one to start playing its part? That really rile the BEAT members and other supporters of universal access !
  • RapidKL’s Suffian repeated what the press has reported about RapidKL’s grand plan for the future.
  • Prof Sulik Suleiman disclosed that bus companies in Hong Kong are making money by the truckloads everyday-in hard cash. He stated that there is a way to create a regulated yet competitive public transport environment that allows consumers to benefit and operators to profit – without too much government “intervention” in the market.
  • Kanesan of SCOMI spoke about monorail technology and then expressed his feeling that the bus and taxi drivers were poorly treated in Malaysia – with low salaries, high costs and expectations, and all the blame for what is happening in the industry. He pointed out that in many cases, bus and taxi drivers were not welcome at public facilities – to the extent that there was nowhere for them to use the washroom.
  • Tan Sri Abdul Aziz who was a chair for a session candidly admitted that he too had been thru many of such conferences over a period of 30 years – but there had not been any movement in the right direction due to a lack of political will.
  • Prof Abdul Rahim said that Bus Rapid Transit only cost 7-10% compared to heavy rail. He proposed that mega projects and highways solutions should be on the way out in favour of leaner and more efficient and more environmentally-friendly buses.
  • Dr. Gue See Sew was another advocate for buses – and demanded that the government set proper and realistic targets.
  • Gurmit Singh of Cetdem expressed his suspicion that the government had not sorted out its priority whether to develop the car industry or to develop public transports.
  • R Nadeswaran (Citizen Nades) of the Sun candidly stated that the Public Transport sector is characterised by lawlessness…he also declared his lack of faith in the new Local Councils
  • EPSM disclosed that KL’s bus lanes had been turned into car parks.
  • Paul Selvaraj of FOMCA too supported buses.
  • Eddy Chen who chaired the last session suspect that the government has not decided whether to save PT sector from bad policies – thus causing Malaysians to abandon PT in favour of unsustainable private cars.

Commentary: Budget 2009

Klang Valley TRANSIT advisor Moaz Ahmad comments on the steps proposed to Improve Public Transportation in the 2009 Budget.

Italic text denotes comments by Moaz.

29. The Government will continue to encourage greater utilisation of public transportation, in the context of improving the productivity and quality of life. I have recently experienced for myself the condition of the public transportation system in our capital city. I believe, a more efficient, reliable and integrated public transportation, which provides seamless travel and greater frequency of services, is required.

30. RapidKL and RapidPenang were set up to improve public transportation in the Klang Valley and Pulau Pinang. Currently, RapidKL provides bus services along 166 routes, covering more than 980 housing areas. Of this, 14% are unprofitable social routes not plyed by other public transport companies. This is in line with the Government’s aspiration to provide better public transportation for the benefit of Malaysians, especially those in the lower income group. On average, 400,000 passengers use bus services daily, while 350,000 use RapidKL rail services. Overall, RapidKL provides 44% of total public transport services in the Klang Valley.

Take note that no specific improvements to RapidKL bus services are mentioned in the budget!

31. RapidPenang provides bus services on 33 routes in 106 housing areas with ridership of 46,000 passengers daily, constituting 60% of total bus services in Pulau Pinang. To widen the service network, 200 additional buses will be provided, bringing the total to 350. With this, RapidPenang services will be extended to cover 14 new routes and ridership is estimated to increase to 120,000 passengers daily by end of 2009.

32. To further improve the efficiency of public transportation, a sum of RM35 billion will be expended during the period 2009 to 2014. This includes projects to enhance the capacity of existing rail services, build new rail tracks, increase the number of buses, as well as provide better infrastructure facilities.

Based on the estimated LRT construction cost of RM250-300 million per km, the total cost of the 72 km of LRT construction proposed in the budget will be approximately 18-21.6 billion – before cost overruns

This means that the government will spend as much as 70% of the money in the Klang Valley

33. The existing LRT system in the Klang Valley will be extended by 30 km, that is 15 km respectively, for Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines. Upon completion in 2011, the extensions are expected to benefit 2.6 million residents in the Subang Jaya-USJ and Kinrara-Puchong areas, compared with 1.9 million currently.

It is expected that the lines will put additional passengers onto an already overcrowded line. In addition, it is unlikely that Puchong residents will benefit from the LRT extension since it will only cover the northern areas of Puchong, and it will not provide a direct route to Kuala Lumpur

34. At the same time, 35 train carriages for the Kelana Jaya Line have been procured costing RM1.3 billion and these trains will be fully operational by early 2010.

35. With these measures, the capacity of the Kelana Jaya Line will more than double from the current 160,000 passengers daily to 350,000, while for the Ampang Line, it will increase from 150,000 to 280,000.

36. To further expand the urban rail service network in the Klang Valley, a new LRT line will be built along a 42 km route from Kota Damansara to Cheras. This new line, with a capacity exceeding 300,000 passengers daily, will, upon completion in 2014, provide rail services to more than one million residents in the housing, industrial and financial areas in the vicinity.

The measurement of daily passenger capacity should be complemented with the maximum carrying capacity of the line – in term of passengers per direction per hour.

We should be concerned that the Kota Damansara-Cheras line will be designed to carry a little bit more than 300,000 passengers daily – less than the expanded capacity of the already crowded Kelana Jaya LRT line. We foresee passenger capacity problems with this line in the future.

Daily passenger numbers of 300,000, 350,000 and 280,000 (for the Kota Damansara-Cheras, Kelana Jaya, and Ampang lines respectively) are relatively low, considering the high costs of construction of these lines.

We are concerned that the rail transit network in the Klang Valley will carry less than 1,000,000 passengers per day.

37. The Government also took over the assets and operations of KL Monorail, from a private operator in 2007. Several measures were taken to improve the operational efficiency and maintenance. Following this, the twelve trains acquired are now fully operational. Since the takeover, total ridership has increased by more than 10% from an average of 51,000 passengers daily to 57,000 currently. This takeover will contribute towards establishing a more integrated urban rail service in the Klang Valley.

Transit questions the actions of the government and Prasarana with respect to the KL Monorail. Since the takeover, Prasarana has taken no steps to integrate the KL Monorail system with the RapidKL LRT network. Prasarana has created a new company, KL Starrail Sdn. Bhd, to run monorail operations, rather than turning it over to RapidKL. There has been no mention of an integrated fare system or expansion of the monorail to 4-carriage operations, which would create more space for passengers.

38. The commuter rail services of Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB) will be upgraded. Towards this end, rehabilitation works are being undertaken on the existing 20 Electric Multiple Units (EMUs) and are expected to be completed in 2009. An additional 13 new units of EMUs will be acquired and be operational by 2011. With this, the capacity of the KTM Commuter is expected to increase from the current 350,000 to 500,000 passengers daily. To expand the commuter rail services network, a 7.5 km Sentul-Batu Caves line is under construction and is expected to be completed by 2010.

Transit notes that the 20 existing EMU trainsets is a significant decline from the original operational fleet of 62 units. The additional 13 EMU trainsets will bring KTM Komuter back to capacity levels seen in the late 1990s. Transit observes that passenger demand has tripled since 1995, while the fleet has decreased by two-thirds or 40 trainsets. On top of this, the length of the KTM Komuter route has been extended.

KTM Komuter should be operating a fleet of 150-180 trainsets to cater for the needs of passengers. The current fleet (20 units) and the future fleet (33 units by 2011) is completely and woefully inadequate.

39. In addition, the two major projects being implemented to improve KTMB services are the Double-tracking Electric Rail for Seremban-Gemas and Ipoh-Padang Besar, which are expected to be completed in 2012 and 2013, respectively.

40. An integrated transport terminal is being built in Bandar Tasik Selatan, to provide facilities for inter-urban taxis and buses, especially from the southern region in the Peninsular. The modern five-floor terminal can accommodate more than 130 taxis and 100 buses, complete with parking facilities and commercial lots, and will provide connectivity to the Ampang Line, ERL and KTM Commuter as well as urban taxis and buses in the Klang Valley. This terminal is expected to be operational in 2011.

41. To provide facilities for inter-urban taxis and buses from the northern region, a new integrated transport terminal will be built. This terminal will contribute towards further reducing traffic congestion in the heart of Kuala Lumpur.

42. Public transport operators play an important role in ensuring a comprehensive network of services, as well as providing more efficient, safe and high quality services, both in urban and rural areas. To reduce their operating costs, the Government has recently increased the quota for diesel subsidy for public transportation. In addition, the Government will undertake the following measures:

First: provide a soft loan facility of RM3 billion under the Public Transportation Fund, administered by Bank Pembangunan Malaysia Berhad (BPMB), to finance the acquisition of buses and rail assets; and

Second: reduce toll charges by 50% for all buses, except at border entry points, namely Johor Causeway, Second Link and Bukit Kayu Hitam, for a period of two years, effective 15 September 2008. The Government will provide compensation to toll operators for their loss of revenue, estimated at RM45 million per year.

43. In addition, bus operators will be given sales tax exemption on the purchase of locally assembled new buses and Accelerated Capital Allowance on the expenditure incurred. Further, the road tax will be reduced to RM20 a year for all bus and taxi operators, including rent-a-car and limousine operators.

No mention of the expansion of bus lanes or encouraging local councils to work with bus operators.

44. The Public Land Transportation Commission will be established under the Prime Minister’s Department, to plan, integrate, regulate and improve the overall public transportation services. This single authority is important to facilitate planning and coordination, as well as improve enforcement. The Commission is expected to commence operations by mid 2009.

The Transport Minister stated that the Commission would be ready by the end of 2008, now the government has already delayed things by 6 months.

No mention of Local Public Transport Authority

ps: additional comments are welcomed in the comments sections

Introduction of TRANSIT

The Association for the Improvement of Mass Transit – Klang Valley (TRANSIT), a newly-formed public transport advocacy group, will introduce themselves to the public and present a “wishlist” for the 2009 Budget in front of the Pasar Seni LRT station at 10:00 am, Saturday, 23 August 2008. All are welcome.

The members of the group hope that their introduction, at one of the major public transport hubs in the Klang Valley, will raise the voice of the public transport passenger, a consumer and stakeholder in the public transport industry.

For too long, the voice of the consumer has not been organized or properly heard. There has been no opportunity for individuals to gain a powerful voice for their suggestions or specific attention to their complaints. The issues within the industry have affected passengers and operators alike – but the interests of the passengers have not been maintained.

Solutions for public transport have, in the past, been costly or ineffective or both. In many cases these solutions have been incomplete because they have not heard the voice of all stakeholders and they have not involved all stakeholders.
It is known that the 2009 Budget will be a “people friendly” budget with specific improvements to public transportation, among others.

TRANSIT wishes to identify specific areas of improvement which can be done quickly within the Klang Valley. The group hopes that the government will consider these suggestions on and above what is already in the 2009 Budget.

TRANSIT encourages all stakeholders, especially MPs, ADUNs, Local Councillors, and passengers to get involved in the process of improving public transport. We hope to lay the groundwork and help get public transport back on track.

The Association for the Improvement of Mass Transit / Pertubuhan untuk Penambahbaikan Pengangkutan Awam – Klang Valley (TRANSIT) will introduce themselves to the public and present a “wishlist” for the 2009 Budget. This will be followed by a tour of public transport facilities, infrastructure, and services within the immediate area.

Details

Date:
Saturday, 23 August 2008

Time: 10:00 am
Location: The public square in front of the Pasar Seni LRT station

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